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we've invited you not just to hear the

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to the next phase of the day so if i can

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get everybody to just calm down for a

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minute we're going to let you get on

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buses and go do what the other part of

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what we brought you here for

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space is critical to this nation and the

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men and women of nasa are working

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tirelessly to enable the new plans for

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these new plans set the stage for

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transformative space achievements over

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the coming years

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there are a lot of peop smart people in

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the room today lots of smart people in

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uh not the least of whom is my friend dr

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ed crawley who's sitting there going i

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wonder who he's talking about bo bemik

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and i should stop now because i'll run

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out of names and everything but there

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are lots of smart people here and we

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i know that we can count on all of you

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and uh and it's like we were all looking

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at the same hymnal and singing the same

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song then we have failed

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we really want people to discuss today

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because we want to learn from you

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before i begin i've asked two

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individuals to provide some initial

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these comments will help provide context

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and foundation for the conversations to

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i'd like to provide some short words of

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introduction for people who i consider

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to be national assets and real friends

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dr john holdren

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is the assistant to the president for

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science and technology and the director

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of the white house science office of

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john has a long and distinguished

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history in academia

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besides holding advanced degrees in

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plasma physics from mit and stanford he

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and berkeley he was the director of the

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independent nonprofit woods hole

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research center

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he's a member of the national academy of

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sciences the national academy of

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as well as a foreign member of the royal

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a former president

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of the american association for the

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advancement of science his awards

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include the macarthur foundation prize

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achievement and the volvo environment

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this is the man you want advising the

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president on science and technology and

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we're lucky to have him with us today

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shortly after president obama took

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on the direction of the u s space

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noam augustine has served as a leader of

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he served on the president's council of

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advisors on science and technology under

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both democratic and republican

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in addition and in addition to last

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year's committee he led the 1990

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advisory committee on the future of u.s

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space programs and the 2005 national

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academies commission that produced the

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landmark report rising above the

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gathering storm energizing and employing

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he is also the author of the well-known

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augustine laws books

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which feature his deep wisdom

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charlie thank you very much and

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various alternatives

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depends so heavily on what the nation

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a tough development program but it was

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apologies you and neal

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the uh

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next thing that should be mentioned is

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the aries one

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the launch vehicle

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the ares one of course

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suffered from the problems of the

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constellation program as a whole

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four years into its life when we

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conducted our study last summer

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it's schedule it slipped between three

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and five years

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so that it tended to be too late to

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support the international space station

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and really too early to support the any

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exploration program or a return to the

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moon

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meanwhile it was consuming money that

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was much needed

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for a heavy lift launch vehicle and

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other purposes

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ares 5 the heavy lift launch vehicle

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it's very clear this nation needs a

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heavy lift launch vehicle and soon that

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was a conclusion of the study i was

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involved in 20 years ago as well

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it's a capability though that in terms

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of aries 5 had barely started because

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much of the money had had to be diverted

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away from it

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by turning to the orion capsule

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the orion capsule once again is the sort

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of a thing that will be needed in our

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space program

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more or less any direction it takes

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and a less costly version of it would

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provide for us

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a very good crew rescue vehicle

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that could be used

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if indeed

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we shut the shuttle down which as you've

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heard the president intends to do

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finally there's the issue of carrying

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cargo and crude to low earth orbit

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today nasa is essentially trapped in low

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earth orbit by the cost of hauling cargo

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using commercial firms to provide that

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capability there should be substantial

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savings possible

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that will let nasa focus its immense

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talents

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on the more exciting things of exploring

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outer space

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as opposed

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to hauling cargo and people between here

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you may recall that the commercial

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airlines were created

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when the u.s government

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awarded contracts to carry the mail

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we have the same kind of an opportunity

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here

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for nasa to ward contracts to carry

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people cargo fuel to orbit

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and to save money such that nasa could

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focus on the more exciting things

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now i would never suggest that we

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confuse airline operations with space

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operations

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on the other hand the question does

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arise

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do we have less faith in the u.s

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aerospace industry

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to carry our astronauts to orbit that we

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have to the russian industry to carry

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this is a decision that entails risk

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there is no question about it

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but with the

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strong

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active oversight of nasa

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i believe our industry is up to the job

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finally

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the question arises

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the president really addressed this

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why conduct space

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exploration at all

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certainly there are benefits to

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to science

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but the real benefit of the view of our

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panel

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is that it gives us a way

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to chart the way for humankind to expand

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its presence out into the solar system

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it doesn't seem that we have a need for

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a second moon race

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we need to set more demanded goals and

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in our mind that goal is landing humans

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on mars

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the problem is that we're not ready to

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do that today

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undoubtedly we

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will be able to land humans on mars

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they're not too distant future decades

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on the other hand i we do have the

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opportunity to do a lot of exciting

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things in the meantime

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and our committee defer referred to that

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as a flexible path

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it was a concept for space exploration

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where one takes steps every few years to

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something ever more exciting including

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things like

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circumnavigating mars orbiting mars

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landing on a

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it probably will include at some point

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returning to the moon

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going to lagrangian point landing on

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phobos or deimos the mar the moons of

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mars that is a highly simplified version

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of our 150 page report

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for those of you who like to read that

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kind of things

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you will recognize the president's

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program

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as being very close to the option 5b

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that we had proposed

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it would seem that if adequately funded

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and if timely decisions are made

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the president's program

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does give us a way

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to have a human space flight program

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worthy of a great nation

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and as others have said

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to transform us from transportation

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thanks very much norm and your words

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were very illuminating to me

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next i'm going to ask dr john holdren to

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come forward and give you some thoughts

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well i want to start by thanking charlie

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bolden for that very gracious

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introduction but even more i want to

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thank charlie bolden for his

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extraordinary service to this nation

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in a career that senator nelson

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summarized briefly that included being a

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marine an aviator a test pilot

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and now

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after a number of other kinds of service

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the extraordinarily far-sighted

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administrator of nasa

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i also want to thank norm augustine and

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his panel for the extraordinary service

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that they did i know how hard they

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worked and i also know the high value

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that their painstaking findings

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held for me for the nasa administrator

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for the president as we grappled with

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the challenge

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of formulating a plan that would in fact

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be worthy of a great nation

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i also want to recognize the astronauts

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who have been good enough to come here

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uh today

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the current astronauts and the former

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astronauts buzz aldrin has already been

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mentioned one of the first two human

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beings to set foot on the moon charlie

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bolden our nasa administrator

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twice

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commander

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but i also want to mention i think

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i've counted at least another eight who

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are here mae jemison

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john grunsfeld

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ed lew

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bob cabana

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leland melvin

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andy thomas

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mike fola

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brewster shaw i don't know if i've

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missed any

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i do need to say

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that the courage that it takes to allow

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yourself to be strapped on to five

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million pounds of thrust

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and rocket it into space never mind the

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courage it takes then to step outside

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the capsule

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out there

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is something i can only imagine barely

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i think we owe these heroes an enormous

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i'm not going to take a lot of your time

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in a moment we're going to break out

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into our four parallel panel sessions

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i just want to say very briefly

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if i had to encapsulate

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in just a few words

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what i think the president's new plan

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for nasa and human space flight

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represent

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i would say it's a faster pace in space

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more missions to more destinations

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sooner at lower cost

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i think the plan

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offers a more flexible more practical

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more productive and more affordable but

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also more visionary approach to us

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leadership in human space exploration

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than the plan that it replaces by

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stimulating an expanded commercial

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capability for carrying cargo and

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astronauts to low earth orbit and

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allowing nasa to devote more resources

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to advanced technologies for exploring

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deep space

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the president's plan will greatly

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increase the number of missions to the

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international space station between now

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and 2020 by u.s astronauts

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expanding the u.s use of the station for

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path-breaking science and as a platform

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for advanced technology development it

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will greatly increase the total number

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of missions human and robotic launched

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from this space center between now and

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2020

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it will shorten the duration of

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dependence on russian rockets for

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carrying u.s astronauts to low earth

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orbit following retirement of the

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shuttle

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it will accelerate

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the development of the advanced

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technologies needed to take our

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astronauts beyond low earth orbit with

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greater safety shorter trip times

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greater capabilities at destination and

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lower costs than with current technology

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and it will expand the roster of deep

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space destinations that u.s astronauts

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will be able to visit after 2020 so that

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that roster includes not only the moon

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but also near-earth asteroids the moons

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of mars and of course ultimately

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the martian surface

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i think

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that as people come to understand

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the flesh and bones of this plan in

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detail

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they will recognize its vision

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for what it is which is far-reaching

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inspirational

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a way that the united states can move

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forward in space in the 21st century in

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a manner as norm augustine has

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emphasized worthy of a great nation

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with that i would like to invite folks

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to

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depart for the various breakout sessions

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i understand the logistics of that have

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already been made known to people so

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that if i'm correctly informed you know

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how to get

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to the panels there are four panels uh

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as you should know

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a panel on expanding the use of the

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international space station as we extend

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its life a panel on advanced

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technologies for moving deeper

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into space a panel on the destinations

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on the flexible path

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forward

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and a panel on the economic

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opportunities

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associated with the new plan so i'm

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hoping that you all know where you're

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going

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if you don't you'll have to rely on

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somebody besides me to tell you thank

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thanks

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coming i know some will not be staying

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but for those of you who are

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the three panels all but one panel are

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going to go from here by bus to the

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divas

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center

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uh the panel on international space

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station with miles o'brien just stay put

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until people start moving and then we're

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moving you into a conference room here

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let me re-emphasize what i said this is

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not for show

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we want to hear from you and we hope to

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have some vigorous discussion uh in the